עודף חלבון

[shacharc]

הבנתי שתאוריה יותר מידי חלבון קיים אבל במציאות זה לא אפשרי להגיע לכמויות כאלו אבל אני צריך לשכנע את ההורים שלי שזה באמת נכון כי הם חושבים שאינטרנט זה דבר רע ולא משנה מה הוא יגיד זה לא יהיה נכון...
אם יש לכם איזשהו מאמר מוסמך על כך שחלבון בכמות של כמו 4 גרם לקילו גוף לא מזיק ושנזק לכליות לא יגרם בכמויות של חלבון כמו 2 גרם לקילו גוף או משהו כזה זה יעזור לי מאוד...

[shacharc]

מישהו? זה די חשוב

[Scylla]

תחפש כאן בפורום דובר על זה לא מעט. תעשה בדיקות דם אחרי מנוחה כדי שהיא תרגע ותמשיך להעמיס חלבון.

[!Demon!]

Considerable debate has taken place over the safety and validity of increased protein intakes for both weight control and muscle synthesis. The advice to consume diets high in protein by some health professionals, media and popular diet books is given despite a lack of scientific data on the safety of increasing protein consumption. The key ues are the rate at which the gastrointestinal tract can absorb amino acids from dietary proteins (1.3 to 10 g/h) and the liver's capacity to deaminate proteins and produce urea for excretion of excess nitrogen. The accepted level of protein requirement of 0.8g x kg(-1) x d(-1) is based on structural requirements and ignores the use of protein for energy metabolism. High protein diets on the other hand advocate excessive levels of protein intake on the order of 200 to 400 g/d, which can equate to levels of approximately 5 g x kg(-1) x d(-1), which may exceed the liver's capacity to convert excess nitrogen to urea. Dangers of excessive protein, defined as when protein constitutes > 35% of total energy intake, include hyperaminoacidemia, hyperammonemia, hyperinsulinemia nausea, diarrhea, and even death (the "rabbit starvation syndrome"). The three different measures of defining protein intake, which should be viewed together are: absolute intake (g/d), intake related to body weight (g x kg(-1) x d(-1)) and intake as a fraction of total energy (percent energy). A suggested maximum protein intake based on bodily needs, weight control evidence, and avoiding protein toxicity would be approximately of 25% of energy requirements at approximately 2 to 2.5 g x kg(-1) x d(-1), corresponding to 176 g protein per day for an 80 kg individual on a 12,000kJ/d diet. This is well below the theoretical maximum safe intake range for an 80 kg person (285 to 365 g/d).

מה שרשום במודגש הוא:
זה הרבה מתחת (כמות של 176 גרם חלבון) לגבול הבטוח הטאורתי המקסימלי לבן אדם ששוקל 80 קילו שהוא בין 285 ל365 גרם לחלבון (365 חלקי 80 זה בערך פי 4.5 ואומרים פה שזה בטוח)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16779921

Conclusion

Although excessive protein intake remains a health concern in individuals with pre-existing renal disease, the literature lacks significant research demonstrating a link between protein intake and the initiation or progression of renal disease in healthy individuals.More importantly, evidence suggests that protein-induced changes in renal function are likely a normal adaptative mechanism well within the functional limits of a healthy kidney. Without question, long-term studies are needed to clarify the scant evidence currently available regarding this relationship. At present, there is not sufficient proof to warrant public health directives aimed at restricting dietary protein intake in healthy adults for the purpose of preserving renal function.
מה שרשום במודגש אומר:
שכידוע היום אין הוכחה מוצקה לכך שחלבון גורם לבעיות בקליות
http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/2/1/25

[yogiyogi]

פורסם במקור על ידי !Demon!

Considerable debate has taken place over the safety and validity of increased protein intakes for both weight control and muscle synthesis. The advice to consume diets high in protein by some health professionals, media and popular diet books is given despite a lack of scientific data on the safety of increasing protein consumption. The key ues are the rate at which the gastrointestinal tract can absorb amino acids from dietary proteins (1.3 to 10 g/h) and the liver's capacity to deaminate proteins and produce urea for excretion of excess nitrogen. The accepted level of protein requirement of 0.8g x kg(-1) x d(-1) is based on structural requirements and ignores the use of protein for energy metabolism. High protein diets on the other hand advocate excessive levels of protein intake on the order of 200 to 400 g/d, which can equate to levels of approximately 5 g x kg(-1) x d(-1), which may exceed the liver's capacity to convert excess nitrogen to urea. Dangers of excessive protein, defined as when protein constitutes > 35% of total energy intake, include hyperaminoacidemia, hyperammonemia, hyperinsulinemia nausea, diarrhea, and even death (the "rabbit starvation syndrome"). The three different measures of defining protein intake, which should be viewed together are: absolute intake (g/d), intake related to body weight (g x kg(-1) x d(-1)) and intake as a fraction of total energy (percent energy). A suggested maximum protein intake based on bodily needs, weight control evidence, and avoiding protein toxicity would be approximately of 25% of energy requirements at approximately 2 to 2.5 g x kg(-1) x d(-1), corresponding to 176 g protein per day for an 80 kg individual on a 12,000kJ/d diet. This is well below the theoretical maximum safe intake range for an 80 kg person (285 to 365 g/d).

מה שרשום במודגש הוא:
זה הרבה מתחת (כמות של 176 גרם חלבון) לגבול הבטוח הטאורתי המקסימלי לבן אדם ששוקל 80 קילו שהוא בין 285 ל365 גרם לחלבון (365 חלקי 80 זה בערך פי 4.5 ואומרים פה שזה בטוח)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16779921

Conclusion

Although excessive protein intake remains a health concern in individuals with pre-existing renal disease, the literature lacks significant research demonstrating a link between protein intake and the initiation or progression of renal disease in healthy individuals.More importantly, evidence suggests that protein-induced changes in renal function are likely a normal adaptative mechanism well within the functional limits of a healthy kidney. Without question, long-term studies are needed to clarify the scant evidence currently available regarding this relationship. At present, there is not sufficient proof to warrant public health directives aimed at restricting dietary protein intake in healthy adults for the purpose of preserving renal function.
מה שרשום במודגש אומר:
שכידוע היום אין הוכחה מוצקה לכך שחלבון גורם לבעיות בקליות
http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/2/1/25

אתה פשוט מלך.

שאלה מפגרת:
יש לך עצות לחיפוש מחקרים בפאבמד ואיפה לחפש בפאבמד (ncbi וכו')

[shacharc]

איזה מלך אתה לא מבין כמה עזרת לי ממש תודה

[!Demon!]

חח שמח שעזרתי.
לגבי השאלה איך לחפש רושם שם אפשרי לכותרת של מחקר ו-NCBI ליד
או באתר עצמו :
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/